Would You Tell Someone If You Noticed Them Printing.

decuerno said:
I’m new to these forums…and don’t wish to give the wrong impression…. reluctant to tell on myself…but here goes:

In 2018 while Vacationing in ID and MT (open carry?) we stopped at a small cafe for lunch. We dropped some post-cards into the sidewall mailbox outside the cafe before entering, and sat down to order. We were viewing the menu when…
A middle-aged “heavy” man with his back to us was bending over talking to another guy sitting at a table. I noticed the 1911 he wore on his right-side in a “bikini”, sharply-canted-holster, which due to his bent-over stance and canted-holster, the muzzle was pointed directly at the back of my wife’s head. The hammer was cocked and It was not possible to see if the safety was on (condition two) and he was so overweight his disheveled clothing appeared that any casual movement might cause a discharge.

I walked over, apologized for the interruption, and mentioned the problem, asking him to shift his position…. to which he responded brusquely “None of your f-in’ business!” He remained bent-over leaning on his friend’s table.

What I did next might have gotten me in trouble… but his response so pizzed me off that I grabbed his right elbow/arm pushing it fwd (preventing his using it) and pulled his pistol from the holster, dropped the mag onto the floor, and cleared the slide. By now he’s pulled away from me and started yelling, but I pushed the slide-release and slid it off the frame and handed the slide to him.

I dropped the frame into the mail-box outside on the sidewalk and walked to my truck a block away (my wife was right behind me acting confused and angry at me. I hate it when women distractingly yell at their men when in dangerous situations.) The guy and his buddy were right behind me yelling and I told them to call the sherriff. My heart didn’t stop racing for hours.

We drove to the next town for lunch and expecting flashing-lights…but never heard a further word.

That’s the only time I’ve ever acted so reckless. Ordinarily I mind my own business.
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I’m going with “‘Things that didn’t happen’ for $400, Alex.”
 
Nope, they need to learn not too as best they can. With so many that have a phone holder or case on their belt they print. So none gun people wouldn’t think twice.
 
Again, I'd like to point out that my main point in starting this discussion was to remind all you people that say that nobody ever notices you printing that based on this discussion the vast majority of people who are going to notice you printing are probably not going to say anything about it
 
PRM1 said:
I had an anti-gun lady approach me in a store. She must have seen my firearm print when I reached for an item. She immediately said, "are you carrying a firearm?" I smiled and replied, "No mam, that's my colostomy bag and it's been leaking today, don't get to close."

Conversation ended.
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Anti gun people are delusional. Everytime I've actually engaged in a debate it ends the same way. Them walking away in a rage because of facts and logic.
 
MYOB is almost always the best policy.

I have mentioned it people before, but no longer. My state allows open carry, Constitutional carry, and permit carry. Not my business what they’re doing.

Given the large population of tweakers, meth heads, Cartel members, and drunks that are in my AO, and the frequency with which they carry, I both appreciate the fact when they print (as an early warning) and I have no desire to have any interaction with them.
 
Smoke said:
I don't remember what forum it was on but we had an argument about you approached some woman in a grocery store in Boulder because her husband was either open carrying or printing really heavily and you said something to him and he ignored you. So you apparently went over and said something about it to his wife.

Both myself and another poster said that you don't approach my wife in public and start a conversation with her.

FWIW I'm pretty sure I said it in that discussion as well as in this one, if I was in Boulder I probably would mention something to the person because open carry is illegal in Boulder and they will prosecute
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Why not? 🤔
 
Just someone is carrtying does not mean they are law abiding, I try to mind my own business at all times. I try not to engage with strangers most of the time. Sad to say in todays' world it is the better way. I used to be a pro active cop. now I am just an old guy with a gun that he dosen't want to use again.
No good deed goes unpunished, really.
 
If it's a friend, I tell them. If not I MMOB. I do ask my wife to let me know if I am obviously printing. But we've been married so long, she doesn't look at me, anyway. If someone asks, I tell them "It's my colostomy bag. Wanna see?"
 
PRM1 said:
I had an anti-gun lady approach me in a store. She must have seen my firearm print when I reached for an item. She immediately said, "are you carrying a firearm?" I smiled and replied, "No mam, that's my colostomy bag and it's been leaking today, don't get to close."

Conversation ended.
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Ha! As seen in my previous post, I've had the same idea as PRM1!
 
TaxPhd said:
Why not? 🤔
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It's a manners thing.

I don't want to rehash the whole incident but if I remember right the other poster was in Walmart or similar store in Boulder and he noticed a guy who wasn't trying to open carry but his shirt got caught behind the butt of his gun. He said something to the guy and the guy apparently ignored him. (I say apparently because we don't know the whole circumstances the guy might have left his hearing aids at home and never heard him.) So the poster approached the man's wife to say something about it.

So I was born and raised in Nebraska but I spent my young adulthood in Texas and in Florida. That's kind of where I learned how an adult male acts.

One of the things that I learned is that you don't walk up to another man's wife and start a conversation. It just isn't done. I also learned that you don't go around me and start a conversation with my wife.

So that's the custom that I was "raised" in.

And it's an important lesson to remember. You don't know how the guy you're dealing with was brought up. Something that's perfectly acceptable in your world may be very insulting to them. Always be ready to back down and apologize
 
Smoke said:
It's a manners thing.

I don't want to rehash the whole incident but if I remember right the other poster was in Walmart or similar store in Boulder and he noticed a guy who wasn't trying to open carry but his shirt got caught behind the butt of his gun. He said something to the guy and the guy apparently ignored him. (I say apparently because we don't know the whole circumstances the guy might have left his hearing aids at home and never heard him.) So the poster approached the man's wife to say something about it.

So I was born and raised in Nebraska but I spent my young adulthood in Texas and in Florida. That's kind of where I learned how an adult male acts.

One of the things that I learned is that you don't walk up to another man's wife and start a conversation. It just isn't done. I also learned that you don't go around me and start a conversation with my wife.

So that's the custom that I was "raised" in.

And it's an important lesson to remember. You don't know how the guy you're dealing with was brought up. Something that's perfectly acceptable in your world may be very insulting to them. Always be ready to back down and apologize
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Let me guess - you also don’t allow another man to even look at your wife do you? You expect all men to avert their eyes when your wife is around. . .

It’s been a long time since women were the possessions of their husbands.

There’s a huge difference between flirting with another man’s wife, and engaging in harmless conversation. Most men understand the difference. . .
 
I was born and raised in Louisiana , which is right inbetween Texas and Florida . I've never heard of it being socially incorrect and I'm knocking on 70 yrs old . I was taught to be polite and respectful and always say sir or ma'am as required . Never had an issue .
 
Smoke said:
I don't know where "here" is but not everywhere place in the world is "here".
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Pal, you are the one that responded to my last POST, which did indicate N. Idaho. Where you live is a choice and I guess the attitudes that go with it is something you deal with.
 
steelslaver said:
I’m new to these forums…and don’t wish to give the wrong impression…. reluctant to tell on myself…but here goes:

I would think it much easier and safer to simply have the wife move out of line with the muzzle, rather than attack a person who wasn't doing anything illegal. I get the concern, but you yourself stated you couldn't tell if the safety was engaged. Not to mention the fact that you had no idea whether his companion was armed. In a lot of places in Montana, once you physically attacked the guy if either of them had killed or injured you they probably wouldn't have even spend the night in jail. In fact in small town Montana, that fat disheveled guy may well have been the sheriff, a county commissioner or a multimillionaire rancher. YOU HAD ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA, YOU STARTED IT, YOU PHYSICALLY ATTACKED THE MAN, HE WAS ON HIS HOME TURF AND YOUR A STRANGER. Not very bright.

IMHO you made a bad situation way worse. You stated you left and went down the road to get lunch. Doing that as your first move instead of your last would have been a lot smarter.
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I don’t disagree. I could have simply left the premises… (which is what I actually did when I realized I’d created a ruckus,…even my wife was yelling at me the whole trip to the next town.)
When I first politely explained my concern to fatso….He got so loud and profane, that those close enough to hear the conversation knew I wasn’t the threat. And I was demonstrable in disassembling his pistol so no one would think I was going to use it. His buddy was stuck in a corner booth and in no position to react…at first he tried to encourage fatso to sit down…but that’s when fatso got angry and blew-up.
I simply lost my temper too …(not good on my part).
I admit I was watching the rear-view mirror for flashing lights the rest of the day.
 
TaxPhd said:
Let me guess - you also don’t allow another man to even look at your wife do you? You expect all men to avert their eyes when your wife is around. . .

It’s been a long time since women were the possessions of their husbands.

There’s a huge difference between flirting with another man’s wife, and engaging in harmless conversation. Most men understand the difference. . .
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Thanks for your input
 
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